Yessssss there is a NEW Ys on the japanese market for PC, and damn it looks good!
Don't believe me? check this out:
http://www.falcom.co.jp/ys6/index.html
some screen for the lazy people!

I feel a calendar coming up again

This is kind of old news isn't it? I also thought there already was a topic about this :?

Wow, this game looks absolutely beautiful

Kris.

Damn... Can someone please port this to MSX?

If anyone can do it: you can

Why are we exited about a sequel? Didn't we admire the originality of msx games? Of course it looks like a nice 2d/3d RPG. But it's PART SIX FFS! Come on, Falcom should come up with something new.

(note: I too am looking forward to it, so call me a hypocrite if you like)

Take a good long look at the nihon falcom site if you want games other then Ys, there is more than enough, Zwei!! for instance!!

www.falcom.co.jp

Thom - Agreed, the system isn't renewing, but games with the gameplay of YS6 (assuming it will be even better than YS Eternal series) are quite rare these days, especially on PC

(btw on june 24 we already reported about this release, so no extra newspost this time ^_^)

Falcom should come up with something new? How about Final Fantasy 12? And look at how popular that series is.
Sequels aren't bad per se.

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Falcom should come up with something new? How about Final Fantasy 12? And look at how popular that series is. Sequels aren't bad per se.

I agree, but nowadays we get a FIFA and a Final Fantasy every year. Of course EA and Square are totally right as they sell shedloads of these franchises. And perhaps FF12 is great, but to some point I think that has to do with the fact that the customers want to get what they expect; perhaps they don't want anything new. Soit.

Nintendo are known for their originality, but strictly speaking they basically release their portfolio (Mario, Kart, Zelda, StarFox) over and over again. Although I like their interpertation of Pac Man.

Final words for now: the YS series were great when they came out in the 80's but now it's a seen-it-done-it. However, this doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy the game.

BTW, one shouldn't stick to pc if one likes games. Get a console.

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>>Falcom should come up with something new? How about Final Fantasy 12? And look at how popular that series is. Sequels aren't bad per se.<< I agree, but nowadays we get a FIFA and a Final Fantasy every year. Of course EA and Square are totally right as they sell shedloads of these franchises. And perhaps FF12 is great, but to some point I think that has to do with the fact that the customers want to get what they expect; perhaps they don't want anything new. Soit.

I wish I got a Final Fantasy each year, but it's more like three years. But yes, in this particular case I don't care about new installments, since I like them, they always change some stuff that makes it different, and a complete new cast and story. And the story is what an RPG is about. So bring em on! (and FIFA sucks big time!)

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Nintendo are known for their originality, but strictly speaking they basically release their portfolio (Mario, Kart, Zelda, StarFox) over and over again. Although I like their interpertation of Pac Man.

You already mentioned Pacman, and how about Pikmin? That was new. Nintendo is different in the way that they don't create the same game over and over again, sure they keep using Mario and Starfox, but they are used in new games, besides some repetitive titles. But Mario Sunshine is no Mario 64. Luigi's Mansion is not Super Mario Bros. Starfox Adventures is nothing like the original Starfox.

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Final words for now: the YS series were great when they came out in the 80's but now it's a seen-it-done-it. However, this doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy the game.

I am not so sure, compared to the larger more well-known RPG's such as Final Fantasy, Suikoden and Star ocean the Ys games have some unique touches to them, when I played Ys 1&2 Complete I enjoyed it, and not only because of nostalgia. The Real-Time combat, the Affection system, the graphical equipment/inventory versus text, the completely unique music style (for an RPG), the drawings instead of renders (ok Suikoden has that too)...imho there should be more of these games although I never understood why they are making them for PC.

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BTW, one shouldn't stick to pc if one likes games. Get a console.

Amen to that brother!

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I agree, but nowadays we get a FIFA and a Final Fantasy every year. Of course EA and Square are totally right as they sell shedloads of these franchises. And perhaps FF12 is great, but to some point I think that has to do with the fact that the customers want to get what they expect; perhaps they don't want anything new. Soit.

Mwa. If you look at the game, the looks are entirely different from what it used to be (and really pretty at that, wow!). It is set in the same universe, sure, but I don't see a real problem in that. Why would a 'new universe' be so nessecary, there are plenty of other games which have that, and aren't like, 99% of all books about life on earth? And isn't there a lot to tell about our planet? Even if you focus on for instance Europe's middle ages, there are loads of stories.

Also, the gameplay has probably still elements of the earlier games, but I think that's part of the Ys 'feeling' and quite unique, so it would be a shame if that would get lost. And although a next installment in a series will have some 'limitations' because it must still be a bit like the previous games (Final Fantasy is NOT a good example for the 'universe' thingie because every part is an entirely new story , but the game controls remain relatively similar among every installment), there's nothing stopping them from changing/improving certain aspects.

And uh, more from a series is imho usually great . I always love it when a new book of Robert Jordan's the Wheel of Time comes out, or if an anime series gets a second season.

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BTW, one shouldn't stick to pc if one likes games. Get a console.

Yeah, I think so too . But apparantly in Japan the PC is used for the same kind of gaming as consoles (which is not the case here). Anyways, with Ys I & 2 Eternal coming to the PS2 I think there's a reasonable chance they'll port this game to it aswell.


~Grauw

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I wish I got a Final Fantasy each year, but it's more like three years. But yes, in this particular case I don't care about new installments, since I like them, they always change some stuff that makes it different, and a complete new cast and story. And the story is what an RPG is about. So bring em on! (and FIFA sucks big time!)

True. But do you honestly think FF is the Van Nistelrooy amongst the RPG's?

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You already mentioned Pacman, and how about Pikmin? That was new. Nintendo is different in the way that they don't create the same game over and over again, sure they keep using Mario and Starfox, but they are used in new games, besides some repetitive titles. But Mario Sunshine is no Mario 64. Luigi's Mansion is not Super Mario Bros. Starfox Adventures is nothing like the original Starfox.

Can't comment on Pikmin as I haven't played it. I agree the new Mario's and the likes are different games than their prequels but still it's more smart use of its franchises than pure courageous innovation.

I'd really like to add that Super Mario Sunshine is utter shite.

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Mwa. If you look at the game, the looks are entirely different from what it used to be (and really pretty at that, wow!). It is set in the same universe, sure, but I don't see a real problem in that. Why would a 'new universe' be so nessecary, there are plenty of other games which have that, and aren't like, 99% of all books about life on earth? And isn't there a lot to tell about our planet? Even if you focus on for instance Europe's middle ages, there are loads of stories.

Yes, visuals change, storylines are different, but If you put these aspects aside for a moment, what has truly been changed in terms of gameplay what hasn't been done before?

I have to admit: I don't like fantasy/Tolkien/Star Trek/magic. That's why I prefered games like ShenMue I & II (I don't understand really why most of you never mentioned this here, most of you are interested in Japan. ShenMue *breaths* Japan). Moreover, the SD Snatcher remake within the Shenmue engine... now that would be something.

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True. But do you honestly think FF is the Van Nistelrooy amongst the RPG's?

No Xenosaga is...let's see...who made that, oh right..Square and it was also a sequel. Best FF ever, FFVII...that's 7. The number after a title doesn't matter at all to me, as long as I enjoy playing it. If old ideas are well conceived, I don't mind the lack of new ideas.

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Can't comment on Pikmin as I haven't played it. I agree the new Mario's and the likes are different games than their prequels but still it's more smart use of its franchises than pure courageous innovation.

Sure, but I think Nintendo has a better/smarter way of branding than most other companies. Like it or not, Mario is 100% pure game-IP not some funky cartoon character taken from TV like some games I worked on (powerrangers, Spongebob). In a world full of licensed shit, Nintendo stands out with quality games, and their own characters. I have trouble with seeing a Mario game as a 'branded' product, I don't call Ys 6 'branded' because Adol plays in it.

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Yes, visuals change, storylines are different, but If you put these aspects aside for a moment, what has truly been changed in terms of gameplay what hasn't been done before?

Let's repeat the most important thing: what hasn't been done before?
Answer that and maybe we'll see some innovation some day. From what I can see, everything technically possible and commercially interesting has been done. Even the most innovative game of the last 5 years is probably a hybrid of 10 older games.

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I have to admit: I don't like fantasy/Tolkien/Star Trek/magic. That's why I prefered games like ShenMue I & II (I don't understand really why most of you never mentioned this here, most of you are interested in Japan. ShenMue *breaths* Japan). Moreover, the SD Snatcher remake within the Shenmue engine... now that would be something.

Startrek looks a bit out of place there

But I love fantasy, like 90% of the RPG players like fantasy, that's why the Ys universe appeals to me, and Spira in Final Fantasy 10. ShenMue is a beautiful game by the way, but since I don't have a dreamcast I haven't played it that much, so it never got the chance to 'catch' me. Your last remark is kind of weird to me, what the hell does technology (the shenmue engine) have to do with anything? IOW: what is so special about shenmue's engine that other 3D engine's can't do?