I played nemesis 3 w/o cheats until that level in which you fly backwards into that screen-size bossmonster.. (after dying alot in that same level) played nemesis 2 until level 5, played aleste 2 until level 8, finished aleste 1 ..

naa I think I can cope with shooters.. but at misc. locations in space manbow I just die.. not to mention that extremely fast red stage in which you get enemies from the back, with lightnings coming from above

Okay I agree, Famicle parodic 2 is not easy but I am proud to say that I have seen the endcredits once. Aleste 2 is also a bitch but I finished that one as well. But Salamander... wow... Never got past level 2. This game is so damn frustrating. So my votes are

1 Salamander
2 Gradius 3
3 Parodius

Hmmmmm all Konami. Strange.... maybe these guys were the most sadistic (at least on MSX, Salamander for Playstation is just too easy).

The hardest is an MSX-basic coded space shooter on 7MHz

I can finish Salamander blindfolded... Nemesis 2 is way tougher because you have to finish all levels twice in order to win the game. But there are probably a few shooters that we're not thinking of right now (Aleste 2, Super Laydock, Xevious, Scramble Formation)

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Okay I agree, Famicle parodic 2 is not easy but I am proud to say that I have seen the endcredits once. Aleste 2 is also a bitch but I finished that one as well. But Salamander... wow... Never got past level 2. This game is so damn frustrating. So my votes are 1 Salamander 2 Gradius 3 3 Parodius Hmmmmm all Konami. Strange.... maybe these guys were the most sadistic (at least on MSX, Salamander for Playstation is just too easy).

Salamander for playstation???

By the way, has SEGA's GULKAVE an end?

And Compile's GUARDIC? That was a cool game!

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Only to conclude I had to play the whole darn game again just b'coz I didn't have Nemesis II in slot 2! (alternative ending)... sight. ah, well it made me the alltime-super-dooper-salamander-trooper in that time. (like yeeeeears ago)

Yeah, though the 'bad' ending had the cooler enddemo and music but the special stage was fun to play though.

The key with salamander was get your ship boosted in the first level and you won't die in the later ones (you could even do the option-hold trix0r in the first stage, which gave you option hold for an unlimited amount of time to make it easier)

I finished all big-name shooters I guess, though I finished Laydock only in 2 player mode (that killer-shield comes in handy) ^_^

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Salamander for playstation???

Yes, Japanese Import. It is called Salamander Deluxe collection. There is also a Gradius Deluxe collection available.

A friend of mine has Gradius 3 and 4 for PS2
Nice games, but way too easy... Except for the Boss monster of lv. 5 of gradius 4. That one's a HELL!

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Salamander for playstation??? Yes, Japanese Import. It is called Salamander Deluxe collection. There is also a Gradius Deluxe collection available.

Yeah. I got the gradius pack. Love to have a copy of the salamander game...hmm
I'm not gonna request the game, don't worry *cough*

Salamander.

LifeForce

Lifeforce ain't an MSX game

why don't they just release Radiant Silvergun on MSX huh, then we didn't have to do a poll on this subject

1. HYPE
2. Zanac A.I. /Aleste /Zanac EX/Aleste 2

3. Star Soldier

4. Xevious ,famicle parodic (i & II)

5. Topple zip 2, Twinbee, E.I, Galaga,Zexas limited, guardic, Knight mare , salamander & nemesis saga , R-type,Scion ,Zaxxon, Sky jaguar, Space manbow, Polar star, Super cobra, Time pilot, Volguard, Gal Force, , Clapton 2 (what about Clapton I?)

6. Scramble formation (*), Stardust(*)

(*) hard flight control.