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Learning Z80?

madcrow
msx lover
Mensajes: 72
Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 14:01   
I'd really like to code for the MSX but I don't know of any good general Z80 tutorials. Most of the best things I've seen are written for developers on the Z80-based TI calculators (83,83+,84,85,86) Would it be a good idea to learn on a platform like that and then move to MSX (and also CPC, the only other GOOD z80 computer) or is there good stuff out there in English that I'm just missing.

cax
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msx master
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Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 14:07   
wolf_

msx legend
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Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 14:11   
this one's also written quite well..
madcrow
msx lover
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Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 14:29   
Quote:

this one's also written quite well..


lol. It's for TI calculators primarily... That seems to be where most Z80 development is happening these days...
wolf_

msx legend
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Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 14:30   
well, it *is* quite readable, is it?
madcrow
msx lover
Mensajes: 72
Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 15:32   
Hmm... I can't really apply it to anything... Does anybody know of anything more targeted at home computers? Scanings of classic book from the 80s perhaps?
HansO
msx addict
Mensajes: 375
Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 16:00   
Quote:

Hmm... I can't really apply it to anything... Does anybody know of anything more targeted at home computers? Scanings of classic book from the 80s perhaps?


This site has many books and is more targeted to Z80 computers like the TRS-80.

On my site I have some dutch books scanned targeted at the MSX. Ofcourse with the english standard Z80 books by Leventhal and Zaks (see the Technical Information section). I can recommend "MSX-2 boek voor gevorderden, achtergrond informatie voor programmeurs"
madcrow
msx lover
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Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 16:31   
I hadn't ever seen that part of your site... Thanks. I don't read dutch, but the links to the stuff on the TRS-80 site was useful. I got some of the "standard" texts...
jltursan
msx professional
Mensajes: 887
Publicado: Diciembre 13 2006, 18:13   
The best Z80 resource in internet is the Thomas Scherrer Home of the Z80 CPU

...and there you can find this great tutorial
madcrow
msx lover
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Publicado: Diciembre 15 2006, 15:21   
Again, that tutorial is aimed at the TI-86... If, as I suspect I'll have to, I learn Z80 by calculator programming, I'll be using some of the excellent TI-83+ tutorials as those seem to be the best written AND the 83+ is the most popular calculator...
NYYRIKKI
msx master
Mensajes: 1528
Publicado: Diciembre 15 2006, 17:17   
I expetially recommend "Z-80 Assembly Language Programming" by Lance A. Leventhal. This book can be found on that TRS-80 page (www.trs-80.com/trs80-bk.htm)
jltursan
msx professional
Mensajes: 887
Publicado: Diciembre 15 2006, 18:35   
Indeed!, it's one of the best Z80 books around!.

Quote:

Again, that tutorial is aimed at the TI-86...



Agreed; but don't be fooled by the fact that a Z80 can be on a calculator, a spectrum or an MSX. A Z80 will be always a Z80, in this tutorial (very basic and easy to start with) you only need to jump over the first paragraph where some specific TI's headers are mentioned, from there you have pure Z80 lessons
Yukio
msx professional
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Publicado: Diciembre 21 2006, 20:57   
Input , published by Marshall Cavendish Limited is very good.
Also teaches game programming and BASIC.

http://www.zqaonline.com/Library/ViewPublication.aspx?type=publication&id=85

 
 







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