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ARTRAG
msx master
Mensajes: 1802
Publicado: Marzo 08 2008, 20:53   
Quote:

I usually don't use the speed wheel. I remap 'toggle fullspeed' to F11 or some other easy to access key. I use the speedup very frequently and the wheel (or a slider) wouldn't work for me.


I was sure of this.
The wheel would make you insane after few hours of ASM debug.
I do not use remap and the effects on my mind are getting more and more evident.....


Quote:


For the second issue, do you have the emulator running or stopped when these issues occur? I use a multi desktop application so I always have bluemsx as the only or almost only app in one desktop so I never experienced this issue.


I think it happens when blue is stopped.
After a while it is a problem even to close it, as it does not respond to any control.


PS
Another thing missing is the scale by 3x
Open has more scale factors and with small monitors with high res openmsx looks better
meisei is the best on this side, as the size goes with the window size!!
Great work hap!!
GhostwriterP
msx addict
Mensajes: 320
Publicado: Marzo 09 2008, 10:33   
Quote:

GhostWriterP, can you be a bit more specific on what kind of crap (more precisely what apps are you running)? 2.7.1 is the latest version btw.

There is a bug (I believe) in the moonsound code (in the fm 4-op part) and it is fixed in the latest openMSX.
That bug has been there for ages, and I was very suprised hear it's been fixed.
So when will blueMSX be updated?
manuel
msx guru
Mensajes: 3638
Publicado: Marzo 09 2008, 14:58   
Hmm, there has been a 4-op bugfix last year (21 May 2007), in revisions 6503 and 6504. So, maybe it wasn't ported back into blueMSX yet.
sjoerd
msx addict
Mensajes: 454
Publicado: Marzo 09 2008, 16:36   
Quote:

GhostWriterP, can you be a bit more specific on what kind of crap (more precisely what apps are you running)? 2.7.1 is the latest version btw.

I think GhostwriterP uses Realfun. You can download a version of Realfun here. The 'crap' is pretty obvious with the song 'dancemaster'.
dvik
msx master
Mensajes: 1376
Publicado: Marzo 09 2008, 18:45   
I'll update the opl code in bluemsx for the next release then. Thanks for pointing it out.
alexworp3
msx user
Mensajes: 35
Publicado: Marzo 09 2008, 22:44   
where can i get my own realfun?

[D-Tail]

msx guru
Mensajes: 3027
Publicado: Marzo 10 2008, 06:06   
Quote:

where can i get my own realfun?

Check the link sjoerd posted on March 09, 16:36CET.
pitpan
msx master
Mensajes: 1418
Publicado: Marzo 10 2008, 09:53   
I've discovered what can be possibly a bug in BlueMSX. Perhaps it is a bad implementation of the original MSX BIOS, but I'm not sure about it, so I'm asking it here.

In order to test the compatibility of a MSX development, I created a BlueMSX machine with only BIOS on slot 0 and 8 KB RAM on slot 3, from E000-FFFF. When the machine is booted, it indicates 28815 bytes free. If I ask for a PRINT FRE(0) it gives the same result. But, of course, if I type a BASIC line, it isn't stored. I mean:

10 PRINT "Hello World"
list
Ok
[]

I guess that the emulated machine does not realize that it only has 8 KB. Perhaps there is a problem in the emulation of RAM, because I think that CHKRAM (0000h) BIOS routine is prepared to handle such eventualities.

It also happens if I set a 16 KB RAM machine. It still indicates 28815 bytes and does not work properly.

I must say that I haven't tested it on openMSX because it is not that easy (point'n'click) as in BlueMSX and I was in a hurry. I know that the Casio PV7 has only 8 KB, but I don't know if it is supported and, in the other side, I don't owe their ROMs.

Any idea regarding this? Kind of weird.
pitpan
msx master
Mensajes: 1418
Publicado: Marzo 10 2008, 11:41   
Ok. I've conducted the same test using openMSX (Windoze) and it works perfectly. I've created a new XML specification of a brand new MSX with only 8 KB of RAM in slot 3, and it displays the correct amount of free RAM, 4,239 bytes (whoa, more than 4KB available for your delight).

Therefore, I can formulate only two different explanations for BlueMSX problem:

(a) The included BIOS has been patched or is a badly coded one that expects 64 KB of RAM, not more, not lesss.
(b) There is a problem with regular RAM emulation that prevents the correct detection.

And of course, a third one, for sake of completeness:

(c) I'm a total n00b and I'm not doing it properly.

pitpan
msx master
Mensajes: 1418
Publicado: Marzo 11 2008, 08:27   
No one?
dvik
msx master
Mensajes: 1376
Publicado: Marzo 11 2008, 08:38   
I haven't had a chance to test it yet. I really don't think (c) is an option, so either a or b. all sizes of memory are emulated but maybe there is a bug in the emulation. I'll let you know, and if it is a bug it will be fixed in next release. It sounds like a very minor one.
pitpan
msx master
Mensajes: 1418
Publicado: Marzo 11 2008, 08:55   
Thank you for your reply, dvik. I'm looking forward to know the results. Anyway, I must say that emulating an 8KB MSX is perhaps too retro ;D
 
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