MSX COBOL?

Door osises

Master (250)

02-02-2011, 11:26

There is some version of cobol for msx?

I found some references to "alpha cobol" distributed by Sony.

Somebody know if it is true and where I could download?

Thanks and regards

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Van enribar

Paragon (1206)

02-02-2011, 12:23

I remember MS Cobol, too. Maybe Philips published it.
And I'm sure others exist (Russian software or CP/M version).
Search in Hans Otten website.

Van enribar

Paragon (1206)

02-02-2011, 12:26

But... Does Modula 2 for MSX have some concurrent programming instructions?

About programming languages: this is an interesting website http://www.wolfa.net/novatec/

Van msxholder

Champion (399)

02-02-2011, 15:24

There is an picture on the site of MSXPOSSE marienberg meeting november 2010 picture 23 ?

Van Manuel

Ascended (19298)

02-02-2011, 19:02

MS Cobol was for CP/M I guess...

Microsoft MS-COBOL
Version 4.65 Copyright 1980,1981,1982 (C) Microsoft
20-Oct-82

Van JasonLee

Resident (40)

17-05-2019, 17:53

Reactivaning a really old post, I remember in Brazil COBOL being somehow popular for some applications. Today I found out that 40% of all software running in the Brazilian banking system is still COBOL, due to the cost and time to convert it all to a new language

http://file2.datassette.org/revistas/cpu_msx_18.pdf

Van Pencioner

Scribe (1546)

17-05-2019, 19:26

I have some insight info that there's still a lot of COBOL code running in US banking systems as well. Back in 2010 I was asked if i know any COBOL programmers with experience. I of course asked who would need a COBOL guy in XXI century and yeah, banking systems in US still has it. The recruiter who asked offered a $10000 bonus for a reference (which is ridiculously big, i wonder how much he was going to earn for that hire). But unfortunately i didn't know any COBOL prgrammers Then i thought 'How hard could it be to learn a new programming language?' and started looking at it. Holy CRAP! That's a horrible beast from hell! Nobody would want to learn such a language nowadays. Finally i have found a quote from Edsger Dijkstra: "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense." and just though that no matter how much would be the salary i'm no going to study it

Van Manuel

Ascended (19298)

17-05-2019, 22:00

alpha-COBOL exists, for instance: https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/lifeboat/alpha-cobol/... but it is actually the same as Nevada COBOL: https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/hisoft/nevada-cobol/r...

Van edoz

Prophet (2473)

17-05-2019, 22:01

Cool. I never knew that COBOL language was running on a MSX.. fun fact to know

Van RetroTechie

Paragon (1563)

17-05-2019, 23:31

JasonLee wrote:

Today I found out that 40% of all software running in the Brazilian banking system is still COBOL, due to the cost and time to convert it all to a new language

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Good advice! Even a $200 / hour COBOL programmer to apply a fix once in a while, is much cheaper than a multi-million $$ project failure. Especially if success of a company rides on it.

Van PingPong

Prophet (4093)

18-05-2019, 13:21

Pencioner wrote:

The recruiter who asked offered a $10000 bonus for a reference (which is ridiculously big, i wonder how much he was going to earn for that hire).

Back in the 2000 year due to millenium bug pain, a cobol programmer with experience (in italy) ranged from 3500€ to even 5000€.
Something like an offense to collegues that work with others more modern, and complex languages.
For comparison, actually in italy a good experienced/senior c++ sw engineer got a salary of 1.7k € :-(