TriloTracker beta thread.

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Van anonymous

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13-03-2014, 20:45

FYI, MoonSound Music Studio will be supporting a mouse interface in addition to its current keyboard interface. But then it is not created to be usable for existing Tracker users, but meant for less computer-technical musicians.

It's good that there are programs for both types of users :)

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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13-03-2014, 20:59

Two things I bumped into (this time not messing with keys navigation compatibility).
When going thru the instruments list with cursor keys, the macro and wave window should change accordingly. So I can see what I am about to pick.
And when increasing the length of a macro, it should clone the recent line. As is I need so much "tone on" editing.
Two little speedup things.

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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13-03-2014, 21:04

I wanted to stress that I am not asking for mouse.
Keys can be real fast when one knows them.
One misses the mouse only when the keys are stubborn.

In the previous example, "wanting to see the wave I am about to select",
I ended up ctrl-i + cursor down + space , ctrl-i + cursor down + space, ...
instead cursor down, cursor down, ...

Van Huey

Prophet (2687)

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13-03-2014, 21:24

CTRL-I is hardly used in the instrument editor it there for the consistency of the layout. Try CTRL+UP/DOWN instead of the instrument menu. Wink

CTRL+L/R changes the waveform attached to the current instrument.

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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13-03-2014, 22:27

I got disk issues.
trilotracker openmsx, floppy led stays on.
as soon as I go to drive selector and select another drive, floppy led goes off.
from then on, files get loaded with the led keeping off!? Smile

also had another issue with saving to a dirasdisk folder.
I went to use DOS copy command, then it worked. but with trilotracker too works, I can't reproduce it.

another openmsx thing, I got files made on the PC side that look like this

filter.tmu
filter.tmu.bak
filter.tmu.bak2

brown infobox "filter.tbak already exists".
well, a filename with 4 letters extension.
normaly there are no dots on the diskette. but with doubledot filenames, openmsx puts dots into the filename.
If I remember right, I could not copy such file with BASIC copy.

What would be best method?
Sometimes I got files like "foo.mp3.txt is telling about foo.mp3".
How about
if more than 11 letters then
snip all dots, take the 3 rightmost letters and stuff the rest on the left.

In all above examples examples, this would make no more brown box, i.e. the various files quite acessible.

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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13-03-2014, 23:23

Ok, I got all things to run, a demo to show what I meant with SCC filter.

download
https://sites.google.com/site/tueftlerlabs/home/downloads/demo20140313_trilotracker_scc_filter.zip

First two times the raw tone, then like thru a filter.
Then same thing with another wave.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6862)

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13-03-2014, 23:40

hit9918 are you sure you aren't just facing this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_(music) ?

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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13-03-2014, 23:58

No, I did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer :D
Like sound synthesis, like adding things together :)

I feel deja vu, I think we talked same when I did it on PSG.
Waveforms are made from multiples of the base frequency.
An octave chord is like creating a new waveform.

But when doing that on real instrument, maybe the ear could spot that separate things went ringing.
And when it is not precisely multiple the frequency, one gets wah wah effects.

Nice chord is like e.g. 3:4 relationship of the frequencies.
The ear always is interested in frequency relationships, be it chord or wave.

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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14-03-2014, 00:06

I got into this idea because of the issue of SCC DAC making the OR bug.
Because SCC is weak on soft tones.
But it can make the square wave which is a soft one.

Van hit9918

Prophet (2925)

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14-03-2014, 00:25

Well and I spoke of "filter", because that is what one would have to like, but one doesn't have, so there starts the "chip hack" part Smile Instead of filtering, I constructed a softer tone.

Note how in the "filter" case the tone in the left column has less volume.
Then I add a square wave of same base frequency.
In the sum, the base frequency keeps original, but others really got smaller, like with a filter.

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