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11-03-2014, 02:32

@ hit9918
Allright! I think I finally understand what you mean. Big smile Indeed, arpeggios were not used that much by Japanese composers.
But I do feel a bit silly now, having compiled this big list of examples 'cause you said rock/metal but actually meant something entirely different. Tongue

@ Grauw
Exactly, that's what I thought, too. Smile But I don't think there is any effect at 0:23. It's just a string of notes played swiftly in a row.

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11-03-2014, 11:35

hit9918 wrote:

@JohnHassink,
what is my point. how to make the point "westerner makes more western music" Wink

I found it: melody is one thing, the other thing is the chip hack.
western is more chip hack.

A lot of western composers (eg. Wolf) focus too much on the "sound design", and indeed not so much on melody and harmony (ie. the music Tongue). I've been saying this for years, so I'm glad to find someone who agrees Big smile

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11-03-2014, 11:55

Now I'm a bit confused. Smile I'd say that Wolf's music generally is actually quite straightforward and 'clear', and hardly (if ever) makes use of 'effects' like arpeggios and HW envelopes (which I guess qualify as being more "sound design"- than actual composition related).

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11-03-2014, 12:19

Should I think more along the lines of a certain "oomph" that music may or may not have? Smile

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11-03-2014, 12:25

I guess it's hard to explain on an internet forum...

You have the 'make it sound' and the 'make it sing'.

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11-03-2014, 12:30

I guess it's pretty abstract material, anyway. Wink
But I'm genuinely interested in both your points of view.

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11-03-2014, 12:38

It's not just in chip music too. Western pop music is very "fixed" within a style and it's usually overcompressed and aftermixed to death.
While eg. Japanese pop freely mixes different styles together in a wonderful way that results in awesome music. Case in point, albeit a bit extreme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY

This is getting way off-topic tho...

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11-03-2014, 12:45

Yes, Japanese music seems to be less restricted by genre borders. The Japanese (black) metal band "Sigh" is another good example, I guess. And a lot of game music can't be pinned down within one particular style.
And yeah, I noticed this "Baby Metal" rapidly becoming the hottest new thing among my fellow otakus. Wink

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11-03-2014, 12:50

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11-03-2014, 12:52

Good point, Grauw.

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