Another 8-bit machine in the making

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By ToriHino

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12-09-2019, 23:27

In this video the 8-Bit Guy talks about his project of building a new 8-bit machine. Although starting from Commodore roots, it's heading more towards the MSX architecture i.e. separate VRAM (including the addition of VPOKE to Basic), memory mapping and eventually maybe even a Yamaha sound-chip (currently still two PSG chips).

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By alexito

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12-09-2019, 23:52

I watched the video is really amazing that vira vdp can make 2 background layers/planes with scroll and sprites.
I wonder if that VDP board can be used in a MSX Computer.

Wink

By keith56

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13-09-2019, 01:12

If anyone's interested, I'll be covering this system in my 6502 assembly tutorials,

I did an early test of the 256 color mode here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDDg5VYjWXY

By erpirao

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13-09-2019, 06:59

65816 is not the cpu of snes?
They are 16bit, right?
in 8bits we already had the kiwi which is very interesting

By PingPong

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13-09-2019, 09:12

the v9990 did it before 2000. this was an amazing chip

By hamlet

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13-09-2019, 11:58

I've become a bit tired of the self-constructed calculators. I don't want to question the engineering performance, but the technical limits seem arbitrary.
So I see no difference to program a game retrodesigned on a modern PC or on such a homebrew computer.
Nice to see and marvel at, but I don't want to delve deeper into this matter.
As you mentioned, with the Kiwi there is already a powerful model, to get lost in details now has no attraction for me.

By erpirao

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13-09-2019, 12:05

"old" new 8 bits system: V6z80P
blog v6z80p
v6z80p demo

By keith56

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13-09-2019, 15:03

the 65816 is sort of 16 bit... and YES, it's used by the SNES (also the Apple II GS)

I believe it still has an 8 bit address bus, but it's registers are full 16 bit width - so call it 16 bit if you want!... it can run in 6502 mode - I've never switched it into 16 bit mode for my SNES tutorials yet - they're all pure 6502 code

I'm hoping to go more into the 65816 next year in my tutorials, but to be honest it's a pain, as you have to tell the assembler when the CPU switches mode between 6502 compatibility and full 65816 (and even certain registers), as the ASM compiles to different instructions

By Manuel

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13-09-2019, 23:24

They say the AY-3-8910 can't go higher than about 2MHz... Strange, I thought it runs at the usual 3.58 MHz on MSX... or am I mistaken here?
Can the YM2149 perhaps be driven by higher clocks? Hmm, datasheet says 1-4MHz....

By Grauw

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13-09-2019, 23:50

It’s clock divided /2. The YM2149 has a built-in /2 clock divider which can be activated with a pin.

By Manuel

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13-09-2019, 23:57

What would be a good sound chip alternative for 8-bit guy's computer?

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